Posts by bats in the belfry

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DECEPTIVE CROSS-REFERENCING IN NWT

by The Searcher in

in order to "scripturally justify" j.f.

rutherford's rebranding of the bible students by the creation of a designer name which made them stand out from other bible students, the nwt deceptively misuses a verse to perpetuate the falsehood of the unscriptural name, "jehovah's" witnesses!.

(james 2:7) "they blaspheme the fine name by which you were called,* do they not?".

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Baptism Requirements vs What the Bible ReallyTeach

by bruh in

does all other organized religions (christian and non-christian) other than jw's require you to go over some 100 or more questions to qualify for baptism?.

amazing how in its purest form that when in jesus christ/apostles time it was perhaps a few questions of belief and repentance.. .

bats in the belfry

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The 2005 "Organized to Do Jehovahs Will" book has way more questions, starting with page 182.

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http://www.dciscorp.com/qwotes/reexamine/organizedtodojehovahswill.pdf#page=182

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jgnat >>> you are way faster than me

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Some updates made to digital publications may not yet appear in the printed editions

by dissonance_resolved in

this is the new disclaimer at the bottom of the downloads page of jw.org.

pretty soon the old versions will all just go down the memory hole and they will think they are in control of the past..

bats in the belfry

Whoa . . . from online digital media to hard copy print it's only a couple of weeks.

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Meanwhile the truth needs already updating?

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Baptism Requirements vs What the Bible ReallyTeach

by bruh in

does all other organized religions (christian and non-christian) other than jw's require you to go over some 100 or more questions to qualify for baptism?.

amazing how in its purest form that when in jesus christ/apostles time it was perhaps a few questions of belief and repentance.. .

bats in the belfry

Oddities of the baptism ritual (Two witnesses rule not observed):

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So there is a way open for both men and women who do not have access to baptism, either because circumstances do not allow for it or because a dedicated male is not present. But by making a valid dedication and going on record publicly before any other dedicated ones present he or she is now recognized as dedicated. But it does not appear Scripturally proper for a sister to try to perform a baptism.

In connection with baptism, it may also be noted that a baptism may be performed by a dedicated male even though no other human witnesses are present. There are Scriptural precedents in the cases of Jesus and of the Ethiopian eunuch to show this. And since prayer is properly offered prior to the immersion, there are always heavenly witnesses.

w73 8/1 p. 480

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Field service records before baptism?

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In view of these examples, should a record of preaching be required today before baptism? There is no such requirement. No rules are laid down in this respect. However, in order to be baptized as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, a person is required to meet with elders in his congregation and to show in discussion with them that he really understands and appreciates the fundamental teachings in the Bible.

w76 6/1 p. 351

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Baptism Requirements vs What the Bible ReallyTeach

by bruh in

does all other organized religions (christian and non-christian) other than jw's require you to go over some 100 or more questions to qualify for baptism?.

amazing how in its purest form that when in jesus christ/apostles time it was perhaps a few questions of belief and repentance.. .

bats in the belfry

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The latest understanding is:

Three times (3 x) you get asked question #1 — then, at the actual baptism ceremony for the first and only time, the second question.

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2012 The Watchtower, October 15, pages 30, 31

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Baptism Requirements vs What the Bible ReallyTeach

by bruh in

does all other organized religions (christian and non-christian) other than jw's require you to go over some 100 or more questions to qualify for baptism?.

amazing how in its purest form that when in jesus christ/apostles time it was perhaps a few questions of belief and repentance.. .

bats in the belfry

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Which question(s) did Cornelius get to answer before he got baptized?

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Governing Body member Sam Heard at our Assembly

by problemaddict in

nice enough gentleman.

the parts were pretty watered down.

mom asks him if he is ready.....did he clean off all the dirt?

bats in the belfry

So, humans pray to God directly - but any answers are delivered via switchboard operators (the angels) !?!

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What is Wesley Benner (C.O.) up to these days?

by bats in the belfry in

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for those who don't know: he is the one that axed ray franz..

bats in the belfry

For those who don't know: He is the one that axed Ray Franz.

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Number of anointed partakers in new yearbook?

by JWOP in

i haven't seen the 2014 yearbook on the jw site yet.

i'm looking to see if the number of partakers has increased again (as it has for many years now).

anyone have a scan of it yet?.

bats in the belfry

Fernando >>> "rule upon" the earth (not over)

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That's always a good one and makes for lively discussions with elders and MSs.

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The Governing Body Have Stabbed Many Old Bethelites In The Back By Not Taking Care Of Them In Their Old Age

by frankiespeakin in

these guys are real company men when they have mass lay off of older bethelites tossing them to the curb and making the congregation they are assigned to carry some of the load, so that the watchtower corporation can cut costs of providing for these nolonger young people who have devoted theirs lives to the corporation.. they are heartless bastards aren't they?

i wonder what kind of undercurrent this is causing at headquartes?.

bats in the belfry

Caveat emptor:

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